[PP-discussions] Fwd: Re: [Bureau] [pp-leaders] [Ppuk-officers] [pp-leaders.discussion] PPAU conditional withdrawal from PPI motion

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Subject: 	Re: [Bureau] [pp-leaders] [Ppuk-officers] 
[pp-leaders.discussion] PPAU conditional withdrawal from PPI motion
Date: 	Wed, 24 Sep 2014 15:17:08 +0100
From: 	Loz Kaye <l.kaye at pirateparty.org.uk>
Reply-To: 	pp-leaders.discussion at lists.pp-international.net
Organization: 	Pirate Party UK
To: 	simon.frew at pirateparty.org.au, nec at pirateparty.org.uk, 
board at pp-international.net
CC: 	nationalcouncil <nationalcouncil at pirateparty.org.au>, 
pp-leaders at lists.pp-international.net, 
internationalrelations at pirateparty.org.au



Dear Simon,

Thanks for your frank email. Like you, we in PP-UK want to see an effective and
inclusive organisation. To that end, I am supportive of the points you make
which aim in a positive direction.

We in PP-UK revisited the question of our PPI membership fairly recently, in
light of many of the issues you raise (and others). We chose continued
membership, but that was really as a spur to improving the organisation.

I hope that PP-AU's points will be taken in that spirit too. If, however, PP-
AU feels unable to remain as a part of PPI, this would pose fundamental
questions about the viability and usefulness of the entire project. I am sure
we all agree progress is urgently needed.

Yours
Loz Kaye
Leader Pirate Party UK


On Thursday 18 September 2014 21:16:30 Simon Frew wrote:
> Dear Pirates
>
> Pirate Party Australia wants to see Pirate Parties International (PPI)
> succeed as an inclusive and effective team of Pirate Parties worldwide. We
> are committed to this goal. However, our members are increasingly aware
> that for a number of reasons, PPI has a tendency to be neither inclusive or
> effective. As a result of this frustration, Pirate Party Australia's
> membership carried a motion at its National Congress in July 2014 granting
> the National Council permission to withdraw Pirate Party Australia from PPI
> if certain conditions are not met.
>
> Pirate Party Australia is committed to doing all it can to assist PPI in
> meeting these conditions by the stated deadline.
>
> The motion was as follows:
>
> *That the National Council be granted permission to withdraw Pirate Party
> Australia from Pirate Parties International if any of the following
> conditions are not met by 31 January, 2015: *
>
>
>    - *An online General Assembly is held. *
>
>
>    - *The following statute amendment proposals are instituted: *
>
>
>    - *1. Remote delegates are given equal ability to participate in the
>    formal aspects of General Assemblies. *
>
>
>    - *2. Caps are introduced on the number of nominees for the Board a
>    member of PPI may sponsor. *
>
>
>    - *3. An improved voting method (such as a preferential method) for
>    electing the Board is instituted. *
>
>
>    - *4. A definitions section to define different types of majorities. *
>
>
>    - *The following is instituted by PPI: *
>
>
>    - *1. A fair and democratic process is ensured for determining who
>    represents PPI at WIPO, WTO, etc. *
>
>
>    - *2. Liaison officers for regional representation are introduced (such
>    as an Asia-Pacific Coordinator). *
>
>
>    - *3. The Board remains stable and does not suffer from resignations due
>    to dysfunction.*
>
>
> *Should any of these conditions fail to be met, the National Council may
> opt to withdraw the Party from PPI at its discretion. *
>
> It is undeniable that PPI has suffered consistent administrative,
> technical, constitutional and even personal problems. Frustration within
> Pirate Party Australia has built over the last four years because there has
> not been, in the Party's view, a solid attempt to fix these issues. We want
> PPI to function democratically and transparently. We want Pirate Parties
> from around the world to participate equally without needlessly spending
> thousands of dollars to attend meetings physically.
>
> The list above is what we as a party believe is necessary for PPI to be
> considered functional, inclusive and useful for its members. If some of
> these are addressed and a general improvement in the operation of PPI is
> seen, we will be happy to remain a member. However, we are not going to
> rely on mere promises: action must be taken before the end of January 2015.
>
> In order to ensure this was not seen as Pirate Party Australia making
> demands and giving an ultimatum, we formed an International Relations Team,
> of which I am the chair. We are ready, willing and able to take on any work
> required to help fix PPI.
>
> Australia is approximately the same size, geographically, as the European
> Union, but our major cities are often further apart than countries in the
> EU. Given this, it has always been necessary to have adequate remote
> participation. This has been non-negotiable from the start. Every year we
> have worked to improve our approach and it is central to how we run our
> meetings and vote. Given our success at managing remote participation
> without complaints, PPI remote participation has been a source of
> frustration for us. We have expertise in running meetings with more online
> attendees than physical attendees, and giving our members the best possible
> opportunity to participate in our National Congress. We are more than happy
> to provide logistical support and advice to help make General Assemblies as
> democratic and participatory as possible.
>
> We do not think it would be fair for us to expect other parties,
> particularly European parties, to send delegates all the way to Australia,
> however we are willing and able to make sure that all parties are given the
> very best opportunity to participate, regardless of whether they can send
> physical delegates. We would like to reiterate that this is not Australia
> vs Europe. We want to work together, and that means taking proper account
> of geographical distances and differences in funding.
>
> We hope that this opens a much-needed dialogue between Pirate Party
> Australia and PPI, as well as other Pirate Parties who are affected. We
> will put together a further email outlining specific suggestions for the
> successful convening of future General Assemblies, but we thought that a
> basic explanation would be most useful at the moment.
>
> Sincerely

-- 
http://twitter.com/#!/LozKaye
For more on Manchester Pirate Party and Manchester Central:
http://manchester.pirateparty.org.uk/
For more Pirate Party UK:
http://www.pirateparty.org.uk/




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